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Date: 2009-03-19 11:13
Subject: Notes about LOST (5.9)- "Namaste"
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Good afternoon folks!!!  Seriously, what a freakin' AWESOME episode last night!  It totally made up for the two week break that we had to endure.  I think I yelled "NO F****** WAY!?!!?" no less than seven or eight times.  So many shocking revelations/nerd details and the preview for next week looks pretty interesting. I'm ready to get started, but as always, thanks to LOST cubit, getlostpodcast and two other sites that I can't remember but found via google images. Quality stuff as always!! Let's do this!

THINGS I NOTICED ABOUT LOST:

- First things first: the Timeline- Alright, from what I can gather and what is obvious, Sawyer, Jack, Hurley, and Co. are in 1977. We know that; but from the THIRTY YEARS EARLIER jump we got, this leads me to believe that the O6 took off in very late December or so of 2007.  Some are arguing that it was early 2008 and I agree that with time being kooky, this is also a serious possibility.  

- The Runway!! 



Frank made a fantastic landing on a random runway that came out of the blue...however, we've seen it before!  In season 3, the episode "The Glass Ballerina" shows Kate and Sawyer working on the runway.



here is an overhead shot of the runway from a deleted s 3 scene:



This is pretty awesome. And it begs the question: how did the others know to build a runway there???  Did somebody from the future tell them to do it?!!? why?!?!? 

- Radzinsky!!- We finally met Radzinsky in this episode.



Who is he and why is he important? He mentioned the placement of the Swan hatch station. Now, this station was above a huge pocket of electromagnetic energy, so i'm thinking that maybe he had a hand in it or perhaps he's a scientist of some sort.  I also can't help but wonder when Kelvin came along or maybe that they were in the hatch at the time of the Purge and have been waiting almost a decade for their replacements.  Just an idea though.

Now, if you think back to Kelvin, Desmond's buddy in the hatch with the beard (who also knew Sayid in Desert Storm) he said that he worked with Radzinsky in the hatch.

(Kelvin)



Radzinsky was not able to stand the whole ordeal and ended up killing himself with a shotgun during one of his shifts.

Kelvin points out the blood stain to Desmundo and says, "this was Radzinsky."



In this episode, you can see him building a replica of the Swan hatch.



This is kinda funny as that is where he would later end his life (okay, it's not ha ha or knee slapping funny, but more ironic!) This is also the replica that is probably used in the Dharma video for the Swan.

 


He also mentioned hatch, The Looking Glass.  This was the hatch that Charlie had to turn off so the boat could be contacted.

- Radzinsky is staying at the Flame hatch, the one that would be occupied by Mikhail later on and that would also be blown up by John during his season 3 "Don't Tell Me What I Can't Do" tour when he destroyed stuff and murdered people.

- Also, here's a shot of the monitors that Radzinsky was watching and that Jin is checking out too.



I can't really make anything out aside from the Muppet Show in the upper left. Anybody wanna point out what these screens are showing? 

-  Pierre Chang!- Jack was interviewed for his Dharma job (get to that in a second!), by none other than Dr. Pierre Chang!!  We've seen Chang on SEVERAL occasions ranging from the Dharma orientation videos to the season premiere and so forth. 

- And Jack's Job? Workman/Janitor!-  This to me was INCREDIBLY funny as Jack, the main head honcho and one who called the shots for so long, is reduced to a janitor.  This is also interesting because Ben's dad was also a Workman and this would be the job that Ben would later hold as well.

- Also, did you notice the booth at the Dharma orientation that was labeled, 'INNOCULATIONS?'



This is probably a nod to the constant "medicine" that everybody had to inject themself with (I think) every nine days.  We still don't know what this medicine does or why people have to take it though.

- One of my two favorite moments of this episode was when we met baby Ethan!!



Seriously, this part was AWESOME and made me squirm with nerd glee.  And I couldn't help but think about WHAT A CREEPY ASS BABY HE WOULD BE.

Seriously, I find really young kids to be REALLY damn spooky (I blame this on CHILDREN OF THE CORN, CHILD'S PLAY, and the awful Kubrick version of THE SHINING, among other films).  But can you freakin' imagine a young, pint sized Ethan with that DEATH STARE?!?!!? 

Adult Ethan and his Death Gaze.



Seriously, look at him as an adult and imagine him as a young kid!! and seriously, if ANYBODY can create an icon/avatar that photoshops Ethan's scary face on a baby or young kid, I would seriously love you forever. But I digress!

But yeah, this part was undeniably awesome and you could see the awkwardness on Juliet's face. Brilliant.

ALSO, this means that not only was Ethan part of Dharma, but he survived the Purge and would later on join the others.  I wonder how/why they didn't kill him and brought him into the group?

- Where's Daniel?!!!?- Sawyer mentioned that Daniel had some ideas about the rules of their predicament, but he then added that Daniel was no longer there. Where is he??!?!!??!  We saw at the beginning of season 5 we saw him with Dharma, so maybe he used the wheel and left the island or something? Anybody?

- "Mystery Ship"- Did you notice the song that was played when Hurley, Sawyer and Co. arrived back at the Barracks?  It had the lyrics "Mystery Ship" in it.  Perhaps a tongue in cheek nod to the many planes/boats that seem to crash on the island?

- One small detail I couldn't help but notice is that Hurley's sweatshirt he got from Sawyer had a picture of a dog on it.  We saw Hurley wearing a shirt that said, "I (heart) my Shih-tzu."



And here we have a sweatshirt that had a bulldog on it.  Could be this be a nod to Vincent in all his four legged glory? (where the hell is he anyway?!!!?!?!)

- Whispers- We heard them tonight right before Christian showed up in one of the vacant houses. 



Some had speculated that this is the sound of Others time traveling and we did see Christian using Frank's flashlight.  This is significant because we really haven't seen him handling anything solid that he hasn't already carried himself (we saw him with the lantern a few episodes ago, but we didn't see where he got it).  Perhaps, this implies that he isn't a ghost, but time traveling from the future to help things out?  I'm not sure; your thoughts?

- Christian mentioned that Sun and Frank still have a long way to travel to get back to Jin and their friends.  I have a few questions. My first one: why didn't Sun go with the others to 1977??? She's one of the 06, so why wouldn't the island bring her back as well?  Also, how are Frank and Sun going to get to 1977?!?!!?  The Donkey Wheel could be used perhaps, I guess.  Any ideas?

- Something LOST cubit pointed out was that there seems to possibly be somebody missing from the picture and from the actual event when the picture was taken.  If you look at the pics and compare them, we're missing somebody. 

The picture itself:



the picture being taken:



Or are they just really tiny?  I don't know what the deal is here or if it's something insignificant that we're making out to be more than it is, but it's interesting, nonetheless.

- I'm still trying to figure out what book Sawyer was reading as he usually reads something that has some tie in to LOST.

- Anybody else think that this Phil guy of Dharma is going to be trouble for the group?  I don't like the way he was looking at the group as he obviously suspects something.  He's gonna be trouble!

- I really enjoyed the tense conversation between Sawyer and Jack.  It had some great moments and it really gave us a great sense of the relationship between these two guys.  Plus, it was kind of nice to see Sawyer resorting to his same ole' asshole self that we've seen of him during 99% of the series.

- And my second favorite moment of the episode was running into a young Benjamin Linus!!! 

 

This was such a great, mind screwing moment!! And I was so happy to hear that brief tease of Ben's theme music too! Very well done!!  At this point though, young Ben has already started to talk to Richard about joining the Others and since Sayid is being charged with being an Other, perhaps Ben is trying to help him out?  I dunno, but this part was awesome!

I'm sure you also noticed how Sawyer slightly nodded at Sayid; as we can tell from the preview of next week, maybe he has something planned for Sayid? We'll see! 

- Preview for next week: It looks like Sayid is killing/shooting somebody.  I would like to think it isn't Jin as we see them wrestling/fighting, but some folks have suggested that perhaps he's killing the young Benjamin Linus. 

I don't know how I feel about this theory as we've learned that the universe/island has a way of correcting itself and if Ben is important to the island, the island won't let him die.  Somebody suggested that Ben isn't important YET and could be killed, but this would throw off so much stuff in the future for SO MANY people, places, and things, that it could be pretty messed up.  We also see Sayid warning the Dharma folks about the future Purge and again, my comment above still makes sense to me, meaning, regardless if Sayid warns Dharma bout their demise, they're still going to die anyway. Your thoughts?

- And something I didn't notice thanks to my non-widescreen, non-HD TV is there is a woman behind Sun after Christian shows her the Dharma recruit picture. It looks like she's holding a baby or something.  you can see the video of it here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GnfwbT6ul1s and here's a pic.



Is that claire?!?!?! Are father and daughter hanging out in the LOST island afterlife?!??  I dunno.

- We also saw Smokey before and during this scene. Smokey was there when Frank and Sun came ashore and it let them pass on, so it obviously must not have it out for them. Something I didn't originally notice was that Smokey shows up a bit later too. Going back to the scene with Christian in the Dharma buildling, if you watch this scene over, the door kicks open by itself and a whirl of smoke comes in.



 Moments later, we see the blonde woman behind Sun; it's been implied that smokey takes the form of people on the island and I believe this is more confirmation of this theory.

- Something somebody pointed out on the LOST cubit boards is that the state of the barracks looks different from when the Others lived there, as in there are still remnants of the Dharma initiative there, something that the Others probably got rid of. So, maybe this is during a different time or something??? your thoughts? 

THE NUMBERS 4 8 15 16 23 42

- Sayid was running through grid 325. I can't find any way they relate to the actual numbers, but "325" is the bearing that Ben told Michael and Walt to take when they left the island at the end of the second season. 

- Code 14J (hostile)- J is the 10th letter of the alphabet; I tried messing around with them, but couldn't come up with much. The best I got was taking 14-10 and that gives us 4, which is one of the numbers.

- If you look at the screen that popped up when Phil discovered Sayid, you can see the numbers



A84 (8 & 4), and the other Pylon's all feature 8 in them. I tried to mess with the other numbers in here, but came up empty.

And I have some bonus stuff:

My Aunt Sharon (who reads the LOST blog) sent me a birthday card for my birthday on 3/2 and she included this HILARIOUS comic strip called Argyle Sweater that have a LOST theme for one of the current strips:



That's hysterical!! Many thanks, Aunt Sharon!!

There was also an article on CNN.COM last month called WHERE LOST INTENDS TO GO that I keep forgetting to post, so here it is!


There are spoilers from the last months episodes and it does also mention some spoilers in regards to the current season of 24 that also happened last month, so you've been warned! 
http://www.cnn.com/2009/SHOWBIZ/TV/02/10/ew.lost/index.html

and totally off topic, but if anybody else is a fan of JERICHO, which CBS canned for such great shows like CANE and MOONLIGHT (hahha where are they again?), I have good news. JERICHO is returning...in the form of a comic!!  http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20090312/tv_nm/us_jericho
Hey, better than nothing!

and that's all I have!!

As always, feel free to leave comments and ideas and all that fun stuff. I'm off to eat some grub and then grade my last 22 papers or so and then THE WEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEKEND!!!!

take care!!

'till next time true believers.

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I died instantly...the next day...: plan b.
User: [info]spifftronica
Date: 2009-03-19 16:43 (UTC)
Subject: (no subject)
Keyword:plan b.

I got the feeling Faraday "not being there anymore" was an allusion to his mental state, but I'm sure I'm completely wrong.

What are the odds Mystery Ship is by Geronimo Jackson?

I suddenly love Sawyer. He's running around GETTING SHIT DONE and Jack thinks he should take charge again?! Pfft.

Lots of great stuff in this episode.

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User: [info]whitebrowgigs
Date: 2009-03-20 19:42 (UTC)
Subject: (no subject)
Keyword:Bret

I also thought that "Mystery Ship" is a GJ track!!

I'm thinking Faraday is busy with Dharma or maybe left the island.

I've liked Sawyer always, but now he's just an uber hardcore badass. He made Jack look like an ass...or as he would say, a Jackass.

And somebody is supposed to die here soon. One of the following: Jin, Ben, Miles, Sawyer, or Daniel. That's the word from "spies" on the set. Any guess?!?!?

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User: (Anonymous)
Date: 2009-03-20 04:08 (UTC)
Subject: Lost, duh.

Marty, Marty, you don’t understand, the survivors messed with the timeline, and that’s why the other’s camp looks different.
Sun probably didn’t come back with the rest because she’s working for her good and not the good of the island, and the island doesn’t like that very much. Humph, sorry island. For example, when Ben got cancer he was working on ways to keep his daughter from dying instead of the will of Jacob. I’m only speculating of course, and just going off of what Richard said to Locke in season three before Richard gave Locke Sawyer’s file.
As far as Jack is concerned, I think he is happy he doesn’t have to call the shots anymore, because he doesn’t have what it takes. “Boo Hoo.” That was kid Jack.
Walt! Walt! Waaaaaaaalt! Where does Walt fit into any of this?
Where are the weaker links? Rose, Bernard…etc.
I thought this was a fun episode that got my excited for next weeks. Mostly for the reason that Sawyer is the big man now and Jack has to sit back and eat it. Things don’t look good for the home team; because when houses go ablaze and survivor battles survivor things are going to get crazy. I can’t wait. Literally, I will have to go to work at some time between now and the next Wednesday.
Out.

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User: [info]whitebrowgigs
Date: 2009-03-20 19:45 (UTC)
Subject: Re: Lost, duh.
Keyword:jack Dance

That's a good point about the island and it knowing that Sun just wants her husband back. When you talk about Ben keeping his daughter alive, what do you mean by that? I know he cared about Alex, but aside from keeping an eye on her and Carl, I didn't think he was doing much else.

lol Jack may play it off like he's relieved...but oh, expect JEARS here soon!

I'm also curious about Walt and why he was important. I think he'll return to the island here soon...cos dammit, why have him be so special if he can't do something?!!?!?

I've been wondering about Rose and Bernard and co for weeks. I had a theory while rewatching season 4 that Rose and Bernard are the skeletons in the cave. We'll see how that works.

I loved Jack sitting in the backseat AGAIN (like he did with Ben and Sun). It shows how he's being treated like a whiny beyatch and at this point, he kind of deserves it.

Thanks!

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User: (Anonymous)
Date: 2009-03-23 03:06 (UTC)
Subject: Re: Lost, duh.

In season three, Ben is obsessed with finding out the reason why women die when they become pregnant, and no one knows why he was going through great lengths other than the fact that the others are his people. Later, in the s3 finally, Ben tells Alex he did not want her to become pregnant. Now, I know he was justifying keeping her away from Carl, but Ben would need a back-up plan in case she did become pregnant. I'm just speculating though.

Does anyone think it’s ironic that Ethan was the first person to great Juliet to the Island, and Juliet was the first to great Ethan to the Island?

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Clown Prince of Geekery: Jin approved
User: [info]whitebrowgigs
Date: 2009-03-24 02:27 (UTC)
Subject: Re: Lost, duh.
Keyword:Jin approved

I have no doubt that Ben was looking out for Alex as well; but in someway, he was looking out for the women on the island, even if his concentration was on Alex.

And good catch on who greeted who! I like that!

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June: {l} jack is the worst
User: [info]waxpapervillain
Date: 2009-03-20 16:34 (UTC)
Subject: (no subject)
Keyword:{l} jack is the worst

Missing Recruit #4 looks like Charlie.

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User: [info]whitebrowgigs
Date: 2009-03-20 19:46 (UTC)
Subject: (no subject)
Keyword:jack Dance

ooooooooooo interesting! I wonder if this is a possibility: bringing more "dead" folks around to times in the past?

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poty
User: [info]poty
Date: 2009-03-21 01:29 (UTC)
Subject: (no subject)

Single best moment for me: young Ben revealed

And something that I've always wondered: Jack's father is so important, where does that leaves Jack?

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User: [info]whitebrowgigs
Date: 2009-03-24 02:12 (UTC)
Subject: (no subject)
Keyword:It's Fantastic

I'm also wondering out of everybody that the island could use, past deceased, why go with Christian? surely the island could pick somebody a bit more pleasant. Then again, he's gotten along with everybody on the island now, minus Jack, of course. Maybe the island chose him cos they possibly he could influence / talk Jack into doing something for the sake of the island?

And yeah, I LOVED seeing young Ben. As soon as that door opened and we saw that person walk in, I just KNEW it was Ben.

Thanks!

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User: (Anonymous)
Date: 2009-03-22 10:05 (UTC)
Subject: Return Of the Pierre Chang Guy

Greetings Brother! Saw Lost the night it played but have not had time to get to your site until just now. I felt like a guy must feel at a vegas poker table(I do not gamble, have had enough vices over the years) with 4 queens until all of a sudden I heard that kid's voice. There was no doubt who it was, and there blows my time line to bits!! Ben can't be Charlotte's father and the massacre is still years away! How ever I do come bearing some gifts first is this URL From YouTube
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gBnBNZO3VSc This is your "Mystery Ship" song it's by Blues Image and it's called "Ride Captain Ride" (upon your mystery ship) that is the advantage of actually living through the 70's LOL

1) The reason that Sun did not go back to 1977 was Jin made John promise not to take her. He didn't she ended up on the other Island, and had to row the boat to the Island and is making the effort on her own through Christian to get back to Jin, hence Locke's word is not compromised.

2) Didn't you think that as soon as Sun started following Ben she would end up hurting him? After all he is with the injured passengers in the tent that Ceasar showed to Locke. I just thought it would be sooner, than when she did it.

3) I think the smoke will be the vehicle that takes Sun and Frank back to 1977, your thoughts?

4)Yes Juliette could not get rid of Ethan quick enough, that was great.

5) the Scene between Jack and Sawyer I did not see the way you did. Jack always had the upper hand in the old days, not now (after all who got them on the list? Are you telling me James did not make sure Jack would be a janitor?)
I think Sawyers demons died when he killed Locke's father. James is much more mature now he said to Juliette that he did not want them screwing everything they had. James told Jack that he thinks rather than just reacting like the Doc did when he called the shots. Jack countered with he got them off the Island and you could see he regretted saying them as soon as they hit the ozone.

6) If Daniel is off the Island he most likely would have gone via submarine. But what if he is with the Hostiles? At the very least Richard knows him, and possibly his mother could still be there maybe with him as a child.

7) the feeds on the video monitors are network feeds from that era, looks to be about 7:00pm, News feeds the Muppet show...very typical US TV back in the day

8) Okay I swore Radzinsky would be killed next week as Sawyer helped Sayid escape, but then when you pointed out his role with my Guy Kelvin (I keep telling you Clancy Brown will be back!) it can't happen. But since next week according to USA Today is supposed to be "Sayid-Centric" complete with flashbacks, Could Sayid be playing out his story line in the next episode? Let's remember, Shannon, Anna-Lucia and Ekko all had those episodes leading to their demise....

Until Next Time My Friend!!!

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User: [info]whitebrowgigs
Date: 2009-03-24 02:23 (UTC)
Subject: Re: Return Of the Pierre Chang Guy
Keyword:Hai Smokey

hahaha nice find on the music track!!! Good ole' LOST. There's a car commercial (if memory serves) that plays "Shambala," the tune that played during the joyride that Hurley and Co took in the van. It makes me chuckle every time I see it.

1. That's an interesting theory about John and the island letting him keep his word. Something that somebody else pointed out was the possibility that Sun returned to the island for her own agenda and not the islands and as a result, she's not able to be with Jin at the moment. I'm curious to see how/if she gets back to him.

2. I wasn't sure what would happen to Ben as I thought that maybe Frank would do something; like maybe Ben would attack Sun or something and Frank would have to beat arse. I was happy to see Sun take him out though. hahaha

3. oooooooooooooo the smoke!! I like that! That is a definite possibility; the smoke would definitely be able to do whatever it wants with time. I think that's a definite possbility!

4. hahaah yeah, that was funny.

5. Interesting idea about Sawyer having Jack a janitor; I wouldn't put that past him and regardless, I thought it was pretty hilarious. I just don't think Jack is used to somebody else being in charge and while he did the best he could, this one is just out of his hands at the moment.

6. oo! I hadn't thought about Eloise being in the island. If that pans out, maybe she's trying to help them figure out how to get back to their own time. If they can, that is...

7. Yeah, I figured that too.

8. lol I hope we see Clancy back. He's a good actor with a great presence and we STILL need to figure out how he ends up on the island and with Dharma.

And that's a good point about Sayid gettin' knocked off. There have been rumors about somebody getting the boot and how the person didn't take it well. We'll see!

You check out WATCHMEN yet?!?!!

Thanks!

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Elle
User: [info]awholeyear
Date: 2009-03-23 23:49 (UTC)
Subject: (no subject)

Maybe the person behind Sun in that picture is part of the crew. Hahah.

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User: [info]whitebrowgigs
Date: 2009-03-24 02:24 (UTC)
Subject: (no subject)
Keyword:Hot Pocket

hahahaha A definite possibility! That'd be pretty hysterical if it is just a crew member and they TOTALLY missed it during post production!

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