| Date: | 2009-02-19 12:46 |
| Subject: | Notes about LOST (5.6)- "316" |
| Security: | Public |
| Location: | Toledo, OH |
| Mood: |  busy |
| Music: | Students yappin' in the hall |
Good afternoon folks!!! A solid episode last night that finally brought the group (or from what we can tell/know), most of the group back to the island. It still raises many questions about who exactly has to return to the island; is it just the 06, or when they say "all" do they mean all, including Des, Penny, Frank, etc? Let's get to it, shall we? And as always, thanks to getlostpodcast, LOST cubit, and longlivelost for their always kick ass screencaps! I couldn't do this without those caps and I appreciate all the hard work in capping and posting!!!
THINGS I NOTICED ABOUT LOST:
- The beginning of tonights episode was an obvious HUUUUUUUUUUGE throwback to the premiere episode of season 1, with the sound effect, Jack's eye and opening up in the jungle. 
This is how the show began back in 2004 with Jack in the jungle and then sprinting towards the beach upon hearing cries of help. I'm not sure if this is maybe a larger clue to the island and how things could repeat themselves or be influenced by something else, but either way, it was cool to see.
I was almost half expecting Vincent to come trotting out of the jungle!!
- We got some more information about the island tonight and how it is constantly moving; i'm curious how this is exactly. How can it move? Is there some sort of order to the Donkey Wheel or some set course that it has to take? I'm curious how this works.
- We got a another new Dharma station tonight: the Lamppost! 
I'm not familar with the series of books, but somebody pointed out the importance of the lamppost in "The Chronicles of Narnia" and how it represented different worlds and the light of truth or something along those lines. Again, i'm not into those books, so i'm not sure. If this is the case, it could be another connection to the books as Charlotte's name was Charlotte Staples Lewis, or C.S. Lewis, who wrote "The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe."
Also, i'm guessing it was Alvar Hanso who came up with the idea to locate the island using electromagnetic pockets.- The Lamppost was a pretty interesting place with lots of old machinery, a huge ass swinging pendulum, and a monster list of coordinates that were attempting to find the island.
The pendulum
The coordinates
I haven't put in any of those coordinates, but i'm told that some lead around los Angeles while one actually is located at ABC Studios, which is kinda funny. If anybody has more details on these locations, share them please!!
- What did Hawking mean when she said that the island isn't done with Desmond?? Will he be brought back??! And seriously, who here also thought that Desmond was going to get WHACKED by that swinging pendulum?!??!!? I had visions of him just getting knocked on his ass and messing up hours and hours of searching in the process.
- Somebody pointed out the columns in this Dharma station.
Perhaps this is a nod/hint/to the four toed statue and the original natives of the island?
- The binder that Hawking gave Jack seems to be a working list of coordinates, locations, and perhaps amount of time in regards to where the island will be and for how long.
And their possible Window?
- We got more discussion tonight on the idea that the island and all things surrounding it are just parts of a game.
For those not up to speed on this theory, let me give you a brief blip about it: some folks think that the island, locating and running it are part of a game between Ben and Widmore. Ben told Widmore he changed the rules, the idea of games/rules/sides has come up ever since Walt and Locke talked about the two sides of backgammon, and tonight, Desmond told Jack that they were pieces in a game. Could it be that everything is a part of a Gentlemanly game concerning the island?
- As suspected, the group used Ajira airlines to get back to the island. A few weeks ago, the survivors in the island came across the remains of what appeared to be items from an Ajira airlines flight.
Could this be the wreckage remains of the plane that brought them back to the island?
- The flight I believe serviced Honolulu and Guam. Hawaii really doesn't have any sort of significance (minus the fact that the show is ya know, filmed there) and Guam doesn't have much to do with anything minus the fact that Guam is many miles east of the Sunda Islands where the O6 washed up onshore three years previous
- Rabbit! Another rabbit showed up tonight in the magicians performance at Ray's (Jack's grandfather) retirement home.
Rabbits have shown up before as Ben had some on the island when he was a child.
and ben also used a rabbit when fooling Sawyer into thinking that his heart was going to explode.
Also, Dr. Chang was seen holding a rabbit in a Dharma initiative video.
Lastly, there have been rabbit references with the episode from season 1 titled "White Rabbit" and not to mention the many references to rabbit holes and "Alice in Wonderland."
Somebody also pointed out to me a while ago that rabbits are a sign of fertility and this could relate to the island's women inability to have a baby and survive.
- I did like what Ray said to Jack when the two were talking, mentioning that he liked Kate, the one with the "freckles." Freckles, obviously, is the main nickname that Sawyer gave Kate.
- And speaking of Kate: WHAT THE HELL HAPPENED TO AARON?!!?!?! Seriously, one minute Kate is hunky dory, doing her thing of complaining and yelling at Jack and running, and the next, she's mopey, almost like she's drugged and out of it and not wanting to talk about Aaron. Was he kidnapped? Killed? Did Claire instruct Kate to leave him?!!??? What happened?!?!!
- One great tidbit I noticed tonight was that Jack mentioned that when they buried his dad, he just threw a pair of white tennis shoes on Christian. This got me pretty giggly as WHENEVER we saw Jack's dad in the jungle (in that creepy hunch position thing he did), he was ALWAYS WEARING WHITE TENNIS SHOES.
and
It always struck me as odd that Christian was wearing this nice, formal burial suit and then....sneakers? And here we finally found out why!
- I couldn't help but be curious about the guy that talked to Jack after his discussion at the ticket counter and the guy that Hurley later talked to as the plane went down.
The cast list has his characters name as Caesar. I KNEW I recognized that guy from something and as it turns out, his name is Saïd Taghmaoui and he played character named Suarez in VANTAGE POINT with.......Matthew Fox! (cue LOST BOOOOOSHHHHH noise!) I don't think he'll become a prominent player in things, but it was just a funny connection I noticed.
- The book that Hurley is reading is titled Y: EL ULTIMO HOMBRE.
If you translate this it says Y: THE LAST MAN. This is/was a comic series (he's probably reading a trade of all of them though) that came out from Sept. 2002-January 2008. It tells the story of a man by the name of Yurick and a monkey, Ampersand, that are the only survivors of a plague that wipes out anything with a Y chromosome. This is obviously a post-apocalyptic book and perhaps hints at the apocalypse that could happen if things don't go according to plan?
- Alright, i'm really worried about this next one: why was Ben covered in blood AND injured?!!??!?!!?
When he left the church, he told Jack that he was going to tie up a loose end that he promised a friend. The only thing that came into my mind was that he was going to kill Penny as he promised Charles he'd murder Penny as Widmore's men killed his daughter. I'm really worried that he might have killed Penny and/or Desmond or other people as well.
If you look at the picture, it's obvious he's at a dock, which makes me even MORE worried as Des and Penny were using a BOAT to get around. Eeek!
- I was pretty excited to see Frank too!
His character has always cracked me up and the look on his face when he saw all of them together along with this GREAT comment were pretty priceless. Poor guy has to deal with this again!
- Recreating the Crash- This theory/issue is a bit rough at the moment. Ben told Jack that he had to give John something of his fathers as they had to recreate the crash as closely as possible. Why? I dunno. Jack gave Locke a pair of his fathers shoes, thus letting Locke take on the Christian role from 815. The question remains: what about everybody else??
Here is a brief rundown of folks on the flight (a few are mine, a few came up in geek discussion from other folks). The first mentioning is the Ajira flight followed by 815:
Sayid is locked up with an air marshall- He is Kate
Hurley has a guitarcase- Perhaps he is Charlie? Why couldn't he go as Hurley though?
Kate is mourning somebody/mopey- she is Jack who was mourning the loss of his father
Sun is...........no idea on this one. Anybody?
Ben has a broken limb/delayed the plane- perhaps he is either Locke (who had broken/unusable legs) or he is Hurley who delayed the original flight
Jack is.......again, no clue.
Somebody mentioned that perhaps Kate is preggers, thus giving her the role of Claire, but honestly, I don't know about this one.
I did LOOOOOOOOOVE Ben's comment when Jack asked what would happen to the other passengers: "Who cares?" Oh, Ben and Jack should get their own spinoff sitcom. I'd watch it and you know you would too.
- And maybe it was my eyes playing tricks on me, but was Locke SMILING when Jack was putting the shoes on his feet???!?? It looked like his mouth changed position a little. Somebody pointed out that it looks like he has grown some hair on his chin since we saw him last.
but this isn't out of the ordinary as our bodies do continue to grow fingernails and hair for months after we die.
How do I know that? Well, let's just say that A. I love zombie films (not that zombie films matter in this case, haha) and B. I watch History and Discovery........A LOT of History and Discovery!
Then again, maybe Locke isn't dead ("Not quite dead yet!") and is faking it? Only time will tell!
- Memories of my MA exam flashed before my eyes when I saw that Ben was reading ULYSSES by James Joyce (I had to read THE DUBLINERS, not this one.....thank God).
The story fellows Leopold Bloom during a seemingly typical day in London on June 16, 1904 (i'll get to that in a second). It has a very stream of consciousness technique to it as it follows around not only Bloom, but other characters as well.
The title actually the latin translation of Odysseus, the hero from THE ODYSSEY. The two novels are compared to one another as they are both long, troubled journeys of the main character.
What makes me chuckle at this one is that I've always thought of Desmond's journey much like that of Odysseus; far from home, trying to get there and enduring loads of BS to do so. Plus, the wife of Odysseus, her name is Penelope, as is Desmond's lady, Penelope.
- The ending of the episode raised many WHAT THE HELL?'s, such as:
A. How was everybody on the plane??? Ben, Kate, Jack, Hurley and Sun we know about, but why is Sayid under arrest!?!! And Frank is there too? Anybody else on this plane that we don't know about?!?!
B. what happened on the plane?- It was almost as if they got caught in one of the islands time flashes and if so, when are they?
C. where is everybody else?
D. and what is Jin up to?!?!???
He showed up driving the VW van that Hurley fixed up and used to save the day in the s 3 finale, but this also the van driven by Roger (Ben's father) many, many years ago.
As you can tell, the van looked really clean though and not worn out.
My guess: they've arrived at the time of the Dharma corporation and maybe Jin has been put to work for them? That or maybe they came across some Dharma clothing during a flashback and decided to use them??!! I really don't know folks. Your thoughts?
Also, go back and watch the preview for next weeks episode and look at who Locke is talking to. I could be wrong, but it looks like its the air marshall that is escorting Sayid! Maybe this is all part of Locke and Ben's plan? and from the looks of it, it's Ben who witnesses Locke's suicide....at least from what I could tell from the trailer.
THE NUMBERS 4 8 15 16 23 42
- The photo taken by the military of the island is dated 9/23/54; it also says OP 264, probably for OPERATION?
What's interesting about this date is not only the 23 in there, but the fact that it's taken almost 50 years to the day BEFORE Oceanic Flight 815.
- Desmond screamed that Eloise ruined 4 years of his life.
- The Ajira flight is number 316- 16 (this was also the name of the episode "316")
- The Ajira flight was also boarding at Gate 15
- There were 78 seats left on the flight- 8 is one of the numbers, but add up 7 and 8, you get 15.
- Jack's seat is in row 8
- Frank had been flying on Ajira airlines for 8 months.
- Some pals of mine has given me guff about going too far with the numbers and they're right...and they'll like this next one (hehehehe): Ben was reading ULYSSES. The story takes place on June 16th, 1904. June is the 6th month, nothing much there. Then we have 16, one of the numbers and the year.....go ahead and add 19+4....you get 23.
- Comic issue- This one was really a huge surprise as I just accidentally stumbled upon it.
Look at the TPB (Trade paperback, a book that collects all issues of a comic) that Hurley is reading for Y: THE LAST MAN
Now, you know how comics are run: issues are released every month or whatever.
Well, look at the cover of this particular issue:
It's the same cover as the TPB. Guess what issue it was during the run of the comic? Issue 15!
and lastly, I have some humorous animated pics of Jack. Seriously, I love stupid animated gifs, ESPECIALLY if they're LOST related. So if you have some, by all means share them with me!
and my fave:
and I believe that's it. I have a fair share of grading to deal with for the rest of the day, but feel free to leave comments, theories, ideas and anything else! I might break from grading and reply during the day, but more than likely, don't expect anthing till LATE tonight or even tomorrow.
Thanks again for reading!!!
'till next time true believers.
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