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| 2009-02-05 20:22 |
| Notes about LOST (5.4)- "The Little Prince" |
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Greetings folks! Sorry about the infinite delay with this weeks blog. I've been grading papers all week (45ish 4-5 page papers, and 45ish 5-10 page papers) and that was priority numero uno. Luckily, I finished them today, attempted to reorganize my mind, and was able to type this bad boy up this evening before grubbage and serious 360 playing (gamertag Whitebrowgigs, add me for madden, left 4 dead and eventually, GTA4 and COD5!) But I digress.
We have A LOT to chew on this week, so let's get nasty. Thanks to LOST cubit, Dark UFO, Lost Hatch, and getlostpodcast.com for all their awesome screencaps!!!
THINGS I NOTICED ABOUT LOST:
- I'm liking how each episode dealing with the Oceanic 6 & Friends starts on the Searcher. It really helps put a lot of stuff into perspective with the finer details of the Oceanic 6 story and what went into it. Plus, it reinforces that the time travel issues on the island are indeed a "flashback" as they did happen three years ago, meaning we don't know what's going on in the present day as the O6 try to head back to the island.
- And speaking of the story, I couldn't help but notice that Aaron stirred a little right before Kate told Jack her idea about claiming Aaron was her own child.
To me, nothing in the LOST universe happens out of coincidence. We know that Aaron is a special child, to what extent, we don't know, but it's obvious that he seems to sense things or even know things (like crying when Charlie died). Maybe he stirred cos he knew something was up or didn't like the idea of Kate claiming him?
- who was taking pics of Jack and Ben?
My guess would be Widmore. Although, I can't help but wonder if Widmore wanted people dead himself, he would send people after them. And this leads me to wonder why folks are trying to tranq Sayid. They don't want him dead, but perhaps they want to drug him, drag him somewhere and interrogate him? Again, is it Widmore again? I'm almost inclined to think it's Ben cos Ben has his hands in EVERYTHING for some reason.
- Police Report- Sun got a report along with her box of chocolates and gun.
I didn't pick this up either, LOST Cubit folks did! If you look at the reports, they match the reports found on this website: http://www.crimescene.com/beauty.archive/evidence.pi.report.html It's a fake police report site where people can solve fake crimes. More digging around found that these all take place in the fictional county of Yaknapatawpha. This county is featured and was created by author William Faulkner in a few of his works, such as "Barn Burning" and one of my favorites, "The Sound and the Fury." I can't help but make a goofy connection between Ben and Benji, but nothing is there.
- I did like Locke's comment about how he has to convince Kate and Co. to come back, even if it kills him. There is an idea floating around that Locke is only dead off the island, but once he gets back, he'll be alive and well. We'll see how that goes.
- Charlotte and Miles and Juliet- All are now suffering from the random island sickness.
I'm going to try to recap Faraday's idea of time travel: the mind has to have a constant when traveling back and forth in time or else it can't handle it. This lead to a few deaths and almost killed Desmond as well. But dan also asked if anybody had been exposed to large amounts of electromagnetic energy, which Desmond was. Now, to my knowledge, neither Miles or Charlotte have been exposed to any energy as they weren't around for the hatch explosion at the end of season 2. So, my questions are: why is the sickness affecting them BEFORE it's affecting Locke, and Sawyer?
Dan is safe as he has a constant in both times with Desmond, but what's the deal with everybody else? Maybe since Juliet, Locke, and Sawyer were on the island longer, it's taking a bit longer to get to them. Maybe that's why Juliet is now starting to feel it, but then again, she was on the island FAAAAR longer than Locke and Sawyer. My head is spinning on this one.
- This also leads me to a theory that myself and other fans are kicking around: the Oceanic 6 and Co have to return because THEY are the constants for the island and its inhabitants. maybe the sickness just hasn't started messing with Juliet, etc, but it very soon will and that's why they need them to return?
- Aaron's "Custody"- I gotta admit I thought it was Widmore behind the Aaron custody issue, but shockingly enough, it was Ben. Why would he do something like that though? Doesn't he know Kate will run? He knows that just as he knows that Jack would try to stop her too, so maybe it was ALL a ploy just to have Jack deliver Kate to him. But would he JUST go after Aaron? Maybe he meant to try to kidnap him and use him as leverage to get the others back to the island?
- Ben's lawyer, Dan Norton is a guy we met in episode 5.2, "The Lie" as he came to visit Kate and inform her about the custody issue.
- But what he didn't count on was Sun being there with Aaron.....oh, and with a pistol. She's out for revenge and I haven't trusted her since the beginning of the season and i'm glad to see my hunch was correct. But Ben has an ace up his sleeve cos........
- "Udders! udders!" Jin is ALIVE!! YAY!!!!!
This got me UBER EXCITED and while I had hopes he had survived, I didn't expect to get confirmation so soon. But yeah, this was GREAT news.
- Some things never change- Jack again made a claim that he was going to "fix" the situation with Kate and Aaron. The dude NEVER EFFIN' STOPS. And i'm posting this funny ass picture cos dammit, I can! :)
- Plus, he met up with an old friend of ours: Danielle Rousseau and her ill-fated team!!
Two of the men we met with her were Robert and Montaun.
Robert (pictured below)
Montaun (pictured below)
When we met Danielle, she told us that Montaun lost his arm and she ended up having to kill Robert, her husband, herself as they, along with her team, had been "sick." I don't speak french, but somebody on the LOST_TV boards said that the group was arguing and saying something like, "we never should have followed the numbers!"
Also, if you listen closely to the radio they have on the beach, it's the transmission stating the numbers that drew them to the island and that Danielle mentioned in season 1. Also, it's obvious that the other castaways stumbled across the remants of their shipwreck on the beach.
- I'm also thinking that once the time travel starts up again, Jin is probably going to find himself alone, but it's obvious he's figured out that he's in the past. Shitty thing to wake up to, poor guy.
- And speaking of season 1, the group headed back to season 1!! We once again saw the birth of Aaron, seen here.
We also got a nice nod to one of the most insane moments of season 1: the light in the hatch.
This happened after John pounded on the hatch door, and Desmond, who was just as distraught about his situation, turned on the light and communicated to John.
Boone also died in this episode. Both incidents happened in the episode "Do No Harm."
- Ben and Sayid traveled around in what was probably the most awkward car ride EVER. I'm still curious why these two are pissy with each other after being psuedo BFF's and hunting down various folks. The name on the side of their van was Canton-Rainner.
I googled both and found nothing. And then I read that this is another anagram for Reincarnation. This is another anagram in the spirit of Mittelos (Lost time) Science among others in the series.
- Messy Camp- This is another mystery that we saw last night: who had been living in the castaways camp? And who in the hell brought these skiffs?
This also leads to another question: who the hell was trying to kill the group?!!?
Could it be another group of castaways or maybe it's the oceanic 6 or something? We are traveling around in time, so what's not to say that we didn't jump ahead and saw another group from the island?
- Another clue dropped was the Ajira airways water bottle.
Ajira has been mentioned in some of the viral sites for LOST already. Could this be the way that the group returns to the island, using Ajira airways? I'm not sure. Their site has some nifty stuff though if you head over to it: http://www.ajiraairways.com
If you watch the video that starts playing, it says the following, "get LOST in the world. Destiny calls." The LOST reference is pretty "duh" and the "Destiny calls" tagline has been used for promos for season 5 I believe. Lastly, they also say Namaste at the end of their video, an expression used by the Dharma folks.
- and probably my favorite tidbit of nerdery I have for you folks (also saw this on LOST cubit, not mine...but dammit, it should have been!) deals with the box found on the beach by Locke. It says besixdouze, which translates to be, six and douze (B612).
A wiki search shows that this is the name for an asteroid. And on this asteroid lived a fictional character by the name of, THE LITTLE PRINCE (name of the episode!!), from the 1943 childrens novel from french author Antoine de Saint-Exupéry.
One really interesting theory I read was that perhaps maybe the island's magnetic pull is pulling an asteroid towards earth and maybe it will collide in 70 hours or be unstoppable in 70 hours and that's why they have to get back there and stop this time travel stuff.
- This would also somewhat go with my theory about the button originally fixing some magnetic issue with the planet. But really, who knows?!?!?!?
THE NUMBERS 4 8 15 16 23 42
- Jack told Sayid he was out for over 42 hours.
- Sayid's room was 133; 13+3=16
- the strip/dock on the marina was strip 23
- Kate's address was 42 etc etc.
- (from a previous episode)Jack's phone number was 323-555-0156; If you add the first set of #'s, you get 8, the second set you get 15, the third set is 12, so nothing really there. Or if you take the second plus plus the first two of the third, you get 16. I'm sure you could figure out more, but these were the most obvious ones to me.
- I believe Kate's license was: 4QKD695. The obvious ones to me are: 4 and D is the 4th letter in the alphabet. If you break the letters into numbers, Q is the 17th, K is the 11th. If you add 4+17+11+4+6 you get 42. i'm sure there could be more though.
- Sayid and Ben's van license was: 3PCI250. P is the 16th letter of the alphabet. If you break it down again: C is the 3rd letter, I is the 9th letter. Spread the numbers out a bit: 31639250. If you add 31+63+9+5, you get 108, which is the sum of the numbers and the amount of minutes between hatch button pushes.
- and not really in the episode, but if you visited the aijira website, it says you can fly anywhere from $87. 8+7=15.
- the number on Sun's package was 3136.
If you play with them you get results. 3+13=16,36*3=108. That's all I got for that one.
and I think that's IT. FINALLY.
As always, feel free to leave comments, questions, theories and everything in between!!! As I said earlier, my mind is mush at the moment, so if I forgot anything by all means, let me know! A thousand thank yous for reading! I REALLY appreciate it!!!!!!
' till next time true believers.
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No, I thought Faraday's thing about the sickness being related to how long you've been on the island meant the longer you've been on the sooner it affects you, and since Charlotte and Miles were on the island as babies (in theory) that would be why it hit them first, if they spent a number of years as children there. Then Juliet would be next with her 3 year stint.
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Ah that makes sense.
Remind me: when did he say this? I can't remember at the moment.
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It was right before he asked Miles if he was sure he's never spent time on the island before. I can't remember exactly when that was, besides within the first half of the episode.
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| (Anonymous) |
| 2009-02-06 02:53 (UTC) |
| Sicknesses... |
Here's my theory on why the sickness is affecting some and not others. I can't remember exactly, but someone (maybe Miles) asked why it wasn't affecting Dan or the others and why him. I remember Daniel saying something like "it has to do with how long you've been on the island". It really confused me but I've been thinking.
The island has some sort of electromagnetic energy. So the longer you've been on the island, the longer you've been exposed to it. So the longer you've been on the island, the more likely you are to catch the sickness. Desmond was on the island for awhile, plus he was exposed to the extra hatch explosion. If Miles is the baby from Dr. Whats-his-name in the videos, he was raised on the island and therefore exposed to the electromagnetic energy. Juliet has obviously been on the island awhile, so she's exposed. Which brings me to Charlotte. If this is all true, why did she get sick first? That means she's been there the longest? But how? I don't remember much of her story or her role in the original expedition (anthropologist?). But maybe she's been on the island long before? Or maybe she's just been exposed to a lot of electromagnetic energy. I don't know. It's just what I thought of when I heard Daniel say "it depends on how long you've been on the island".
I have to admit that I don't understand the whole having a "constant". I like the idea that the O6 are the constants and that's why they have to come back to the island. But I don't know. I'm just enjoying this season immensely! :)
Stephanie :)
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ah, roger that! Like Spiffster mentioned above, that would make sense. So if you have a greater attachment to the island, it hits you sooner.
So it should hit Locke and Sawyer soon :(
And I think the theory is that Miles is Dr. Chang's son. Dunno about Charlotte, but she's totally from the island, dammit!
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| (Anonymous) |
| 2009-02-06 11:10 (UTC) |
| Re: Sicknesses... |
there is something I remember about the last season... but not very well... hahaha... something about charlotte that made me think about she had a past at the island...
and, here in Spain (me and my lostaddicts friends), we "made up" a theory: she was the girl that gave the present to ben when they were children... the small doll ben had for his bday... nice charlotte!! :)
i cant remember the specific episode that made us think this theory... but we will try to remind it!
again: great blog whitebrowgig!! thanks!
cheers from SPAIN! :p
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The idea of Ben being the girl is one i've heard and really dig. It would tie her back to Ben and the island. My only issue with this is the age difference: Ben looks to be well in his 40's or so and Charlotte, to me at least, doesn't look to be over 30 or so. Unless the island time/world time thing comes into play.
Also, I'd have to double check, but I don't think the little girl had an english accent.
The episode was "the Man Behind the Curtain" from season 3.
This is still possible though as I really don't think we've seen the last of that mystery girl.
Thanks for reading!
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| (Anonymous) |
| 2009-02-06 03:56 (UTC) |
| That airline |
That airline cant possibly exist, and that website must have been made by the LOST people. Remember the fake Oceanic commercial a while back?
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| (Anonymous) |
| 2009-02-06 14:43 (UTC) |
| Your BLOG is awesome! |
Love Love Love your blog!
Waited patiently all day yesterday to read your stuff!
Sometimes we all wish you would type more...and that's a compliment because I dont usually read too many blogs and the shorter the better....but your's could be pages long and I would get Lost in it....
hey...=)- hehe "lost"
Thanks again!
Florida Lost Fan & Yours, too!
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![[info]](http://l-stat.livejournal.com/img/userinfo.gif) whitebrowgigs |
| 2009-02-06 16:32 (UTC) |
| Re: Your BLOG is awesome! |
| Jin approved |
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Aw, many thanks for your patience in yesterdays delay!!! I love teaching, the student interaction and discussion, but grading is easily the part that I'd say any college instructor (or any teacher at all) doesn't like to do. hahaha
Many thanks for your support!!! I really appreciate it!!
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| (Anonymous) |
| 2009-02-06 18:37 (UTC) |
| Re: Your BLOG is awesome! |
ha ha if it meant reading your blog sooner I would help you grade papers
=)
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| (Anonymous) |
| 2009-02-06 14:49 (UTC) |
| whispers |
tell us your take on the whispers....
is this them time traveling and hearing each others conversations?
this is from a friends friend....but I liked it so i wanted to share it....
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I think as we get more and more into the show, the whispers are looking more like they are folks time traveling. The question remains though: how do they do it specifically? Why do they do it? If they are doing it, how do they use folks such as Charlie, Yemi, and Christian to do things if they're dead?? Do they travel back in time, get them while they're alive and yank them to the island? So many questions!
Also, if you listen to some of the whispers, you hear quotes from other characters. Like before Shannon got capped, in the whispers you could hear Boone saying, "Dying sucks," which was something he said at her dad's funeral.
So i'm definitely leaning towards it has to do with time travel in some shape or form.
Thanks for reading!
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| durisin |
| 2009-02-06 15:33 (UTC) |
| Whispers & Constants |
My take on the whispers is that they are voices of the Losties when they're time traveling. Perhaps the whispers are very quick & distorted because time warps them somehow.
Also, I totally agree with the 06 being constants.
Steve
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| whitebrowgigs |
| 2009-02-06 16:37 (UTC) |
| Re: Whispers & Constants |
| Hot Pocket |
Steve- Yes, I'm gonna have to agree that the whispers are somehow dealing with time travel.
I mentioned this above, so forgive me for just directly cutting and pasting:
I think as we get more and more into the show, the whispers are looking more like they are folks time traveling. The question remains though: how do they do it specifically? Why do they do it? If they are doing it, how do they use folks such as Charlie, Yemi, and Christian to do things if they're dead?? Do they travel back in time, get them while they're alive and yank them to the island? So many questions!
Also, if you listen to some of the whispers, you hear quotes from other characters. Like before Shannon got capped, in the whispers you could hear Boone saying, "Dying sucks," which was something he said at her dad's funeral.
So i'm definitely leaning towards it has to do with time travel in some shape or form.
Thanks for reading!
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| durisin |
| 2009-02-06 19:51 (UTC) |
| Re: Whispers & Constants |
Opps! Sorry I skimmed over the comments and must have missed your post. Guess I was too eager to get my thoughts on screen!
Really like the idea about going back in time and grabbing them while they're alive.
Steve
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| whitebrowgigs |
| 2009-02-06 20:30 (UTC) |
| Re: Whispers & Constants |
| jack Dance |
oh, don't worry about it! I posted that comment about 30 seconds before yours!
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| (Anonymous) |
| 2009-02-07 08:39 (UTC) |
| Give You Your Propers, and Take You To Task |
Hi,
I'm the guy that reminded you about the Pierre Chang video after the first week back episode. First of all, I want to give you credit where credit is due; when you theorized that Miles could be Chang's baby after the premiere, I thought you were really reaching. However, when Daniel questioned Miles as to if he was sure he had never been to the Island, your theory was the first thing that came to my mind. Congrats! Secondly, both you and I were correct that Jin was not dead, so kudos to both of us. I do not remember any interaction between Jin and Danielle, but he definitely knew who she was when she said her name. Which leads me to question why she did not recognize Jin 16 years later, when the plane crashed. Any thoughts? Now I have to take you to task, you left out what to me is a major storyline. The group is headed to the Orchid! What are your thoughts that Locke is going to try stopping the Island moving by turning the Donkey Wheel? Which also would cause Locke to leave the Island! Now one question I have is how can Ben go back to the Island when he told Locke who ever moves the Island leaves the Island and can never go back? One last question, what do you think has happened to Rose and Bernard? I never have been that fond of Bernard, but Rose deserves at least a good exit! As always great stuff! Until next time!
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| whitebrowgigs |
| 2009-02-07 16:12 (UTC) |
| Re: Give You Your Propers, and Take You To Task |
| Charlie |
hehehe many thanks for the credit with Miles and the mutual credit with Jin!! I appreciate it!!
I'm trying to think about if the two had any interaction and aside from perhaps him seeing her walk into camp or perhaps finding out later about him trying to kidnap Aaron, nothing realy comes to mind between the two of them. but you're right: he definitely recognized her name and probably figured out something was iffy with the time.
regarding recognizing him, I would say that perhaps if we see a flashforward to the time when she was alive, perhaps we'll see her interact with him. Or perhaps she just never really saw him on the beach and thought he was dead. Or maybe after 16 years of being slightly crazy, she just forgot.
However, I THINK I remember Daniel saying something about how it doesn't matter what you do in the past as if the two people had no interaction in the future, nothing will change. Does that sound right? I think he said it in the first episode of season 5. somethinga bout how if two people didn't interact in the future, they couldn't do much in the past and if they tried, the universe would correct itself. that's why he stayed and talked to Desmond cos they had spoken in the future.
Regarding your storyline questions:
1. I think Locke will definitely jump ahead in the future, if only by accident and we'll see how he contacted the Oceanic 6 and what happened to him in the process. I don't think he's dead though as i'm suspecting its all a ploy, somehow. Maybe it's a plot as Ben knew how much influence Jack would have over the rest of the group and faking Locke's death would help him convince the rest of the group to head back to the island.
2. I also think that you can return to the island. My initial theory is that Jacob says that whoever turns the wheel can't return; well that's because they obviously won't know where the island is and hence, can't come back. Maybe if you do know the location, you can return, but it's a matter of finding it.
3. and i'm also wondering where the hell the rest of the group are!! I've always liked Rose and Bernard, so I do hope htey're alright. My thought a few weeks ago was that Rose and Bernard are the skeletons in the cave. don't ask me how cos I don't know, but they said they'd never leave the island, so perhaps they never did and the skeletons are theirs.
Thanks again for reading! take it easy!
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| (Anonymous) |
| 2009-02-07 21:02 (UTC) |
| Re: Give You Your Propers, and Take You To Task |
That is a brilliant theory, about Rose and Bernard being the skeletons, You really are good! Only problem with your theory about past/future interaction, I see one flaw, Daniel and Chang. We know, that Daniel and Chang interact because of the film, now if Chang was killed by the Others, he could never have met Daniel. So that kind of is a fly in the Vaseline. One last thing about Charlotte possibly being Ben's childhood friend, I agree the age difference is apparent, but who knows if her parents and her left the Island and went into the future. That of course would explain the disparity. As far as the accent, she could have acquired it by living there (it actually sounds more South African than British to me) after they left the Island. One last thing, if they get to the Orchid before the next flash, there is a good probability Ben will be there, as we know that he will steal Alex. Do You think Locke and he meet, and do you think Ben will recognize him if they do! Again Great Stuff as Always! Until Next Time!
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| (Anonymous) |
| 2009-02-08 11:10 (UTC) |
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Ben's childhood friend's name was Annie, she had dark brown hair. Her complexion also would be wrong for Charlotte, Annie was not dark complected, but certainly not as fair skinned as Charlotte. Sorry for bursting your bubble
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ah, nice catch!! We probably are wrong then!
thanks for reading! take it easy!
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